I’M…. WOW. I’M… I’M STUNNED. I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO MAKE OF THIS .. ITS.. IDK.

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R: Precisely, touching on these topics about political correctness and how various groups of people react to certain types of comments, a few weeks ago you were in, let’s say, the eye of the hurricane. I opened Twitter and saw Tenoch Huerta in Trending Topics.

TH: Once again. During the pandemic, I’ve been [in Trending Topics] like seven times already.

R: Well, the most recent one, when you made the comment about executing people in El Zócalo.

TH: Yes.

R: Explain it to me. Have you talked about this? I know you wrote and backtracked, but have you publicly spoken about this?

TH: No, you’re the first person I talk to about it. Eh, yes, it was… I was joking with a friend [about] which would be the worst punishment that someone who betrayed their country could face. In this case, as we know now, through fraudulent deals and with money involved to sell their conscience and vote, almost all politicians in Mexico did it [betray their country] and now we know, there is proof and trials there. But well, we were talking about how it is comparable to betraying your homeland, because you’re betraying it, you’re giving away the first or second source of wealth of a country whose economy and society is hanging by a thread. We became neoliberal 30 or 40 years ago and we’re fucked, and oil is the one thing keeping us afloat, and then these fuckers go and give it away.

So, we were talking about what could be the worst punishment. If they should be locked up for the rest of their lives, and so on, and so forth and I said, in this game, ‘shoot them from behind and then bury them face down or release them in El Zócalo for 15 minutes without guards’. So then, the joke, the punchline comes from my friend who says, ‘or make them listen to Arjona[1] for 24 hours’ and I said ‘no, wait, that’s really cruel, don’t fuck around, you really went too far, that was too much’, but as a joke. That happened around 9 AM and it was in that moment that the news was released [about the politicians/ oil corruption]. Twitter was practically silent the whole day, I guess they regrouped, the people that were pointed at, and around night, or afternoon, they started to react with a farm of bots. A lot of politicians who are involved in this scandal, they start to say that I’m a murderer, that I’m a dangerous man, even a PAN senator said that I should be in a mental hospital or something along those lines because I was a person who had turned into the Narcos’ character I played. Besides, he also took a term that is extremely derogatory and mocking… A panista senator said that I’m an indigenazi[2]. That I was an indio[3]…

R: Who was it?

TH: No, I won’t tell you the name. But he said that I was a murderous indio, therefore, I was an indigenazi. The same people that want us to vote for them used this term that I don’t give a fuck about, honestly, I don’t give a fuck about what they have to say but is an extremely derogatory term to a lot of people, millions of human beings in Mexico.

So, all of this comes [it freezes, but I guess he said my way] and I say ‘Wow, okay, you know what? I understood, I fucked up. Yes, Twitter is not the space to play like this, to make this kind of jokes’. So then I said, ‘You know what? I take responsibility about the consequences my comment might have, and I apologize. I’ll delete the tweet in ten minutes because… So you can take a screenshot.’ I delete the tweet because I understand is a joke in bad taste that could have negative and offensive effects to a lot of people, that’s why I deleted the tweet, but I gave them time to take screenshot because I take accountability about what I said, I won’t pretend like I didn’t, I won’t say ‘what happens is that, this, that, I thought…’ No, no, no, I said this. I fucked up. I said this in this context and for these reasons and I take accountability about what I said. I take down the tweet because it might be offensive to a lot of people, considered a joke in bad taste, because it is, but I take accountability and I assume the consequences it might have. And that’s it.

I received a lot of calls from friends telling me ‘No, don’t delete it, leave it up’ and others saying ‘Yes, take it down’ and I said ‘No, no, no, I won’t leave it up or take it down’, do I explain myself? What’s the ‘I won’t leave it up or take it down’? I delete it but let people screenshot it.

R: So, there’s a record, no?

TH: So, there’s a record about what I did, what I said and that I backtracked, not because I did something in bad faith, with bad intentions, because there weren’t [bad intentions in what he said], but because it might be something that could hurt a lot of people.

A girl wrote to me on Twitter, and she said, ‘We can’t be against racism and seek death penalty’ and I said ‘yeah, she’s right’, I didn’t answer, but I said she was right… But it was a joke, it wasn’t like I was talking seriously about it. And I still think that Arjona is way worse, but…

R: I’m interested, it’s a phenomenon that’s happening too often. You can say anything on the internet because the tone/mood on the internet… There’s not such a thing.

TH: There’s no tone/mood.

R: Any misstep and anyone can paint the color they want to a message [it’s an odd way to say it, but basically, whatever message you put on the internet can be twisted].

TH: And it also depends on who takes it. For example, that message didn’t gain reactions until twelve, ten hours later. But the people affected, the ones who felt pointed at, they don’t want people to tell them ‘You’re a criminal and you have to pay’.

R: So, you’re telling me they redirected the attention from them, the guilty [politicians], to you, an actor, a public figure so they could distract the media from it. Do you feel that’s what happened?

TH: What do you think?

R: I’m a journalist, it doesn’t matter a lot what I say.

TH: And I’m the one who you’re interviewing. I won’t make the conclusions; I’m only stating the facts. The interpretations can be made by the public. But yes, I think that incident was unfortunate, it’s something I’m obviously not proud of but I don’t feel guilty about it, either.

R: Okay.

TH: So, nothing else… There were consequences? Yes and no. Yes, because there was annoyance from people I admire and respect a lot, people whose opinions I care about. And maybe, more than annoyance, there was a ‘That’s not the way to do it, kid’, which I appreciate a lot because it’s people I love and are close to me. People I love, I admire, and respect told me ‘No, that’s not the way to do it’, ‘That’s not the tone you should use’ and we all know it was a joke, because I’m usually serious in interviews but in real life, I’m always joking around. So, I’m actually the dude on set they have to shut up, they have to tell me ‘Shut up, dude’ because I’m messing around. So, normally, I joke around and the people who know me better told me ‘Yes, dude, it’s alright you joke but not in that moment, place or space and because of that, you have to take accountability, fucker’ and well, they were right.

R: To wrap up this topic, you’re going to obviously still be active on Twitter. What’s the lesson you take from this to go forward?

TH: What lesson? Well, that you should be careful about when, how, where and with whom and also why. I think… They say that the timing in politics is everything, right? It’s not that I’m a politician or trying to, but at the end of the day, Twitter is an extremely politicized space and it has to be understood and treated that way. I have my own farm of bots and trolls assigned to me since I supported publicly a colleague that was severely trolled. And since then, another right-wing senator threw his bots farm at me, and these bots are much more aggressive, extremely violent. They’re the kind that tell you that they will beat the shit out of you on the street; for example, they sent me images of the ku klux klan to me; they sent images of brown people being beat and they sent stuff like that to me. They’re a really violent kind, but well, honestly, it’s not something that… How do I put it? Once, an expert about security topics told me ‘If you’re still alive, it’s because they won’t do anything’.

R: Because you’re too important for them to touch you.

TH: No, not even that. No, no, no. They killed Colosio[4], they don’t give a fuck. No, nothing to do with it. Rather, it’s because if you’re still alive, it’s because they haven’t wanted to do anything, if they did, you basically wouldn’t be alive anymore. And I think that goes for everyone in this country, right? It’s not only for me, that goes even to… If you mess up with the wrong guy in your street, in your neighborhood, the consequences could be fatal. So, I’m just aware of those risks, but once again, I'll say I’ve never attacked anyone, except for that unfortunate tweet, it was a stupid remark from me, but I’ve never personally attacked anyone. I express… I bring my point of view to the table, there’s political topics with which I disagree… Or politicians, political figures with who I don’t agree on, others that I agree with halfway and others with who I agree more. All in all, I’m just saying it because I’m practicing my citizen right to express what I think, especially in topics related to politics, society, and culture, but my citizen right to express what I think doesn’t allow me to infringe, attack or abuse groups that have been infringed, attacked, and abused historically. That doesn’t give me the opportunity, doesn’t give the right, you have to be conscious of that, especially when you’re a public figure.

When you’re an average person, and you want to make your joke, well, make your joke, you’re an average person. And if you want to insult, well, insult[5]. I honestly don’t think this is something we should even stop at. But when you have media power, you have to be pretty conscious about that power and think very well what you will say. You can say anything, I’m in favor of people saying whatever they want to, but they should take accountability of the consequences of what they say, because if I come out and say a stupid remark, and for that stupid remark I lose my job, my house, my car, my shoes, or my family… Well, they’re consequences about what I’m saying and I have to take accountability, do I explain myself? So, you have to take accountability of what you say. Because of that, I say once again: I did that stupid thing, I said that stupid remark, I take accountability for the consequences and I say ‘dude, you earned it, they said things to you, you were beat up repeatedly, they fucked you up, they looked down on you, they told you a bunch of stuff, well, you earned it’ I say… And that’s it. And if it had costed me a job, well, I would’ve had to accept I fucked it up.

R: Tenoch, thank you. I know this is a delicate matter because overall they’re delicate [I think he got distracted]… What I’m going to do is publish this as a whole so nothing can be taken out of context, and everyone can listen to your message as it is, right? Because even when you write or edit everything is subjective.

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Notes:

[1] Ricardo Arjona. He’s a singer. His songs are pretty corny and romantic.

[2] It’s a mix between indigenous and nazi.

[3] The man called Tenoch ‘Indio’ which is a derogatory way to refer to indigenous people.

[4] Mexican politician who was murdered

[5] He says ‘mentar madres’, which is hard to translate. It basically means to do something that will make someone else feel angry.

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cutelatinagirl

Here you are, anon! Thank you so much @scoobydooisadetective!!

It’s really fitting this is the video you chose to ask about anon, considering everything he’s going through right now and that the platform is, once again, Twitter.

It’s like the wild, wild west out here, but without the catchy theme song/Will Smith fighting a giant mechanical spider.

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observers-journal

MER is friends with public servant Armando Ocampo Z, who has complaints of corruption involving financially benefitting her lawyer for another case, harrasment, and gender violence

I don't wanna say anything at this point. I just know the only profession she truly has is that of being a criminal and a narcissist manipulator.

@talokanda-forever @cutelatinagirl @cantstayawaycani @luzsp9-1981 @sarahivi @scoobydooisadetective @love-too-believe @oakzap425 @too-many-atoms @popsworth @deputy-videogamer @4dogmom @soledadmiranda

Apologies if I'm missing somebody

cutelatinagirl

Fucking idiot. Keep stretching that rope, Elena. It’s not as long as you think.

scoobydooisadetective

It's a lot

(3:37 - 5:39)

Reporter: I'd like to know your point of view in terms of what you said about Tenoch Huerta.

Her: I didn't comment anything, and the press misrepresents everything and for that I won't even clarify or say anything because everything is mistrepresented. The video is on youtube if you want to see it. I never said there were more complaints coming, or that he would have to face the law or... what else did they make up? Ah, a very heavy case. Okay, let's see, I did say that I, Vanessa, just found out there were more voices that denounced the buddy (it's hard to translate) because of the complaint malena made. Why? Because they were only speaking about malena's complaint and it wasn't only malena. In social media, online, there are other voices that are denouncing and I didn't hear about it. And the day before I had the interview I listened to the story of a girl, about something that happened 5 or 6 years that was super super heavy. So I don't get the eagerness, with al due respect, the press to misrpresent, to tie up knives, to... be morbid with such delicate stuff, for both parts. It's sad what is happening here. It's sad that a man with that trajectory, so talented and loved, because I have great appreciation for him is involved in this for behaviors that beyond him, we have to un-naturalize from our society, no matter who they come from. We have the moral and human responsability as media and as society to embrace the victims and sadly, for that crime called stealthing there's no jurisdiction in Mexico for that crima in particular. The one that many voices denounced from male rios

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I guess we all are seeing the same pattern and everything but. I'll say it again:

• She says she didn't say anything, then proceeds to number everything she said.
• She was talking about stealthing and probably about the one with disorted audio
• Did anyone notice the change in her tone? In the last interview she was almost disgusted talking about him. Now she calls him "compañero" as in buddy and says that both parts should be treated with respect. She also mentions his career and how loved he is. I really hope she's trying to back up because his team sent her a warning or because she has learned MER will have to go to court for everything she's saying.
• She goes off about stealthing but obviously doesn't even know what she's talking about.

Honestly I'm trying to be polite here but I'm pissed off. You can tell how self absorbed she is throughout the video. Just watching the beginning is enough. This woman doesn't love acting, she loves cameras. This woman isn't a feminist, she just uses the fight as a prop.

@cutelatinagirl @observers-journal @talokanda-forever @luzsp9-1981 @soledadmiranda @neoboha

And I'm probably forgetting a lot, sorry.

cutelatinagirl

This woman doesn’t love acting, she loves cameras.

YES, EXACTLY THIS. The camera lights went on, she’s pushing back her hair, moving her handbag, can’t take that tiny microphone any faster. She’s thinking IMAGE IMAGE!!

And she entirely contradicts herself throughout this process. But you know what? GOOD. Thank goodness she did this, because she made herself look like an absolute baffoon. She just shot down any ounce of credibility she might have had and proved that nothing she says can be taken seriously because she doesn’t know a damn thing.

A la verga, babosa.

I’m pretty sure the tweeted statement has already been shared here, but thanks to the wonderful @neoboha who provided the screenshots, we have it directly from Tania Saavedra’s Instagram account, complete with a lovely picture of her with Tenoch.

I thanked her for sharing her story and supporting Tenoch and told her I hoped her daughter would be returned soon and safely, and now she’s following me 😭😭♥️♥️

@talokanda-forever @cantstayawaycani @observers-journal @soledadmiranda @luzsp9-1981 @scoobydooisadetective @v4mpires0ap @oakzap425 …… I know I’m forgetting so many of you, sorry y'all, I keep blanking out

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Hay personas apoyando de manera silenciosa 🤫🦋❤️

El día de ayer me emocioné ver estos tuits. Menciona que es el último fin de semana para proyectar Hijo de Monarcas y las sala casi está agotada en la Cineteca Nacional

Según tengo entendido se estrenó Hijo de Monarcas el 25 de Mayo 2023 en algunos cines de la República Mexicana, pero quienes no han dejado de proyectar es la Cineteca Nacional.

La Cineteca Nacional es una institución gubernamental dedicada a la preservación, catalogación, exhibición y difusión del cine en México. Es dependiente de la Secretaría de Cultura.

El 29 de Junio hubo una persona que mencionó que decidió ir de nueva cuenta a ver la película para apoyarlo y se sorprendió ver la sala de cine llena. 🙌🏾❤️

Así que a pasar de estar casi 2 meses en la cartelera aún hay personas que van al cine a ver la película.

fantoche72

ELLOS NUNCA PARARON DE PUBLICAR HIJOS DE MONARCA! ELLOS JAMAS LE DIERON LA ESPALDA A TENOCH

Another brilliant breakdown by Feminegra on Twitter.

Behind the Music: The hidden criminal ties of the Ríos Ortiz Family

*if she updates this with an English version, I will update the post.

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